Mises was brilliant

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If only his theories and methods would take hold not only in the hearts and minds of the people but at all levels of government, we would all be much better off.
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  • Re: Mises was brilliant

    Sun, April 18, 2004 - 4:59 PM
    Well, to do so, a majority of government services would have to be cut and people would have to take greater responsibility for their actions. However, it seems like society as a whole is abdicating responsibility more than taking control.
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      Re: Mises was brilliant

      Sun, April 18, 2004 - 7:56 PM
      How can we reverse that trend?
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        Sun, April 18, 2004 - 8:33 PM
        A good start would be to simplify the retarded tax code and encourage entrepreneurship. I really believe that diligence and entrepreneural skills are the basic building blocks of a "successful" economy. Maybe make "The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin" or Trump's "The Art of the Deal" required reading in school.

        My interest in Austrian Economics is in their business cycle theory. Being trained in neoclassical economics as an undergrad/graduate student, I find AE to be a refreshing perspective that actually tries to explain the "why" instead of just hand-waving it away.
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          Re: Mises was brilliant

          Sun, April 18, 2004 - 9:11 PM
          I am err...self trained in economics. I didn't go to college. I see economics as being the common thread that all together because we all have to either work within the same system or actively avoid it.

          I am also a big fan of Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Those guys really know how to put things in to perspective.
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          Re: Mises was brilliant

          Mon, April 19, 2004 - 12:36 AM
          Please define "neoclassical." My education in economics is not that in depth. I am only familiar with the Classical and Keynesian schools of economics. All I really know about Mises's theories so far is that he believes in total Economics freedom. The freedom to fail as well as to succeed and that's what has me intrigued.
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            Re: Mises was brilliant

            Mon, April 19, 2004 - 12:45 AM
            You're asking a lot.

            I suggest going to www.mises.org and reading through some of the material.

            Also, check out this book called Human Action which you can download in PDF format for free. It is certainly a good place to start. www.mises.org/humanaction.asp

            Good luck and I hope you report back your findings.
          • Re: Mises was brilliant

            Mon, April 19, 2004 - 10:28 AM
            The majority of all Economic thinking taught in U.S. Universities are of the neoclassical school. Neoclassical economics emphasizes analysis at the margin (marginal utility, marginal product of capital/labor, etc) coupled with highly mathematical models. Fanatical belief in general equilibrium. Probably the most influential neoclassist in the 20th century is Paul Samuelson. Unless all you've read in economic literature are Adam Smith and David Ricardo, you're probably familiar neoclassical economics and just don't know it. Hope that helped.
          • Re: Mises was brilliant

            Wed, May 5, 2004 - 11:13 AM
            The top-dog Classical Economists were:
            Adam Smith
            David Ricardo
            Karl Marx

            The neo-classical revolution began with the economist Alfred Marshall - and set the stage for Keynesian thought.

            The difference between the classical and neo-classical thought versus Austrian thought ultimately comes down to value theory - one of my favorite subjects.

            Adam Smith and David Ricardo advocated a sort of "labor theory of value" to explain how goods and services aquire their value (it was a cause of great hand-wringing for them, you could tell). Marx took the labor theory of value and ran with it - literally the entire marxist/communist doctrine is dependant upon this value theory.

            In the late 19th century, Carl Menger was one of a small handful of economists to discover "marginal value" (William Jevons and Leon Walrus were the other two) - introducing the "subjective theory of value" to the discpline - and ultimately debunking the entirety of Marxian theory (the universities refuse to let it die, though it should be a long dead school of thought).

            Menger took the marginal value theory and created a whole new school of thought - thus creating the Austrian School of Economics. He would eventually mentor the revolutionary Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk, who would mentor the great Ludwig von Mises(the true giant of the austrian school), who would mentor Frederich von Hayek and Murrary Rothbard.

            If you ever want to look into value theory - it can be quite intersting and amazingly insightful. Let me know what you find..

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